Older Yang variations and lineages
Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2004 8:51 pm
Just browsed the internet on other Yang lineages out in the world and what they are selling. I copied an pasted some of the info. from vcd's and dvds. curious of what others think? legit? worth observing the differences?
1. Lineage from yang shou hao- to chang yiu-chun- to earl montaigue
The Old Yang Style Long Form, The Large San Sau, The Pauchui , The Small San Sau, The Old Yang style has a Long Sword and Hidden Dagger Form a Short Stick Form and a Short Stick San Sau (a two person fight sequence) and a Sabre Form and a Spear Form.
2. Lineage from yang pan hao- to wang jiao-yu- to kou lien ying-
Guang ping form 1 and guang ping form 2 cannon fist. Old yang variation from guang ping prefecture in yongnian county- home of yang family.
3. Lineage from yang pan hou to sun jixian- wang jiaoyu
By Jiang Jian-ye. He teaches a 64-form from grandmaster Sun Jixian, who learned from Wang Jiaoyu, an indoor student of Yang Banhou. The spear is a classic T'ai Chi weapons routine. Jiang teaches spear techniques and then teaches the movements, step-by-step with multiple repetitions and angles. There are reviews of segments and a demonstration
4. Lineage of Yang lu chan/yang pan hoa- fu Jiechen- xiao gong-zhou – Xiao Tieseng
a very rare Funei (Imperial) branch of Yang style Taijiquan from Fu Jiechen. This set of VCDs is presented by Xiao Tieseng, son of Xiao Gongzhuo and current inheritor of the style; it focuses on Imperial Yang style Taijiquan. According to practitioners of this style this was the original art that Yang Luchan taught just after he arrived to Beijing, and which included ten sets. The versions popular now were all modified by Yang Banhou (Yang Luchan's son), who was upset that his father taught the complete art openly, and decided to spread a trimmed version that had only one Large Frame set. While this story is hard to verify, this set presents a rare version of Yang style and introduces many methods not existing in its more popular branches.
5.Old Frame of Yang Style Taijiquan (Lao Jia, emphasizes internal strength, the movements are light, soft, power is hidden inside); (3 discs/2 boxes), USD20.00 (Sh&H not included)
6.Small Frame of Yang Style Taijiquan (Xiao Jia, with compact stances, sudden changes of speed, fast footwork and hand techniques); (2 discs/1 box), USD13.50 (Sh&H not included)
7.Yang Style Taijiquan Long Fist Boxing (Chang Quan, each part of the routine can be practiced separately on both sides as single drills; each of its movements is composed of four elements: Raising, Supporting, Turning, Closing); (1 disc/1 box), USD9.00 (Sh&H not included)
8.Thirteen General Postures of Yang Style Taijiquan (Shi San Zong Shi, very rare routine based on movements of thirteen animals: lion, snake, magpie, monkey, tiger, crane, bear, toad, dragon, phoenix, chicken, cat, and horse; related to Taoist internal elixir methods, hence it is also known as the Method of Thirteen Elixirs); (1 disc/1 box), USD9.00 (Sh&H not included)
5. Lineage from Yang Chein hou to He Shouyan to Wang Dian Chen
Yang Style Taijiquan, the most popular style of Taijiquan, has developed into many branches of which the one coming from Yang Jianhou is relatively unknown. Yang Jianhou, son of invincible Yang Luchan, did not have many students, and even less became his in-door disciples and received full transmission. This set is probably the first video material ever showing this style as taught by Yang Jianhou to He Shouyan, Yang's disciple, often referred to as "Middle Frame" of Yang Style Taijiquan. Presented by Wang Dianchen from Beijing, who learnt from He Shouyan for over 25 years, this set explains details of both empty hand and weapons routines of Yang Jianhou's system, showing many unknown sets and methods:
1."Traditional Routine of Yang Style Taijiquan in Thirteen Postures as taught by Yang Jianhou" (Yang Jianhou Chuan Yang Shi Taijiquan Chuantong Taolu Shi San Shi, rare traditional routine in 87 movements different - in movements, powers, practice method - from popular Large Frame taught by Yang Chengfu); (3 discs/3 boxes), USD18.00 (Sh&H not included)
2."Thirteen Animals Routine of Yang Style Taijiquan as taught by Yang Jianhou" (Yang Jianhou Chuan Yang Shi Taijiquan Shi San Dan, this traditional routine based on movements of thirteen animals is presented to the public for the first time ever); (1 disc/1 box), USD8.00 (Sh&H not included)
3."Yang Style Taiji Straight Sword in Thirteen Postures as taught by Yang Jianhou" (Yang Jianhou Chuan Yang Shi Taiji Jian Shi San Shi, old straight sword routine in 54 movements); (1 disc/1 box), USD8.00 (Sh&H not included)
4."Yang Style Taiji Spear in Thirteen Postures as taught by Yang Jianhou" (Yang Jianhou Chuan Yang Shi Taiji Qiang Shi San Shi, rare spear routine of Yang Jianhou system); (1 disc/1 box), USD8.00 (Sh&H not included)
6. Lineage or Yang chein hou/Yang shou hao to Wang chonglu to wang Yongquan to Wei Shuren
Explanations of Neigong (Internal Skill) principles - excerpts from the book "The True Teachings of Yang Jianhou's Secret Yang Style Taijiquan" by Wei Shuren. Wei Shuren, Yang Style Taijiquan expert from Beijing, in this book wrote down the teachings that he had received from his teacher, Wang Yongquan, and for the first time revealed many secrets of Yang family martial art. Wang, although formally disciple of Yang Chengfu, learnt the style from his father Wang Chonglu (Yang Jianhou's disciple) as well as Yang Jianhou and Yang Shaohou. In his teaching he stressed the importance of using the Intent (Yi) to guide the movements and considered it a decisive factor to develop Nei Jin - Internal Strenght. This translation contains the detailed description of basic requirements for Yang Style Taijiquan practice with strong emphasis on the use of Intent. It is interesting to see how different they are from what Yang Chengfu taught (and was written down by Chen Weiming); one has an impression that Yang family kept secrets of their style very well, and only thanks to people like Wang Yongquan and Wei Shuren we can have a better look at the deeper aspects of Yang Style Taijiquan that for many decades used to be known to only a very few.
7. Yang chen fu to Xu minshan
By Jiang Jian-ye. Yang short staff.Part 1. He teaches the first 60 of 104 movements in this from created by Xu Minshan, an indoor student of Chengfu., in 1974. It combines the essences of Yang family Tai Chi and characteristics of Yang family staff.
[This message has been edited by mls_72 (edited 07-22-2004).]
[This message has been edited by mls_72 (edited 07-22-2004).]
1. Lineage from yang shou hao- to chang yiu-chun- to earl montaigue
The Old Yang Style Long Form, The Large San Sau, The Pauchui , The Small San Sau, The Old Yang style has a Long Sword and Hidden Dagger Form a Short Stick Form and a Short Stick San Sau (a two person fight sequence) and a Sabre Form and a Spear Form.
2. Lineage from yang pan hao- to wang jiao-yu- to kou lien ying-
Guang ping form 1 and guang ping form 2 cannon fist. Old yang variation from guang ping prefecture in yongnian county- home of yang family.
3. Lineage from yang pan hou to sun jixian- wang jiaoyu
By Jiang Jian-ye. He teaches a 64-form from grandmaster Sun Jixian, who learned from Wang Jiaoyu, an indoor student of Yang Banhou. The spear is a classic T'ai Chi weapons routine. Jiang teaches spear techniques and then teaches the movements, step-by-step with multiple repetitions and angles. There are reviews of segments and a demonstration
4. Lineage of Yang lu chan/yang pan hoa- fu Jiechen- xiao gong-zhou – Xiao Tieseng
a very rare Funei (Imperial) branch of Yang style Taijiquan from Fu Jiechen. This set of VCDs is presented by Xiao Tieseng, son of Xiao Gongzhuo and current inheritor of the style; it focuses on Imperial Yang style Taijiquan. According to practitioners of this style this was the original art that Yang Luchan taught just after he arrived to Beijing, and which included ten sets. The versions popular now were all modified by Yang Banhou (Yang Luchan's son), who was upset that his father taught the complete art openly, and decided to spread a trimmed version that had only one Large Frame set. While this story is hard to verify, this set presents a rare version of Yang style and introduces many methods not existing in its more popular branches.
5.Old Frame of Yang Style Taijiquan (Lao Jia, emphasizes internal strength, the movements are light, soft, power is hidden inside); (3 discs/2 boxes), USD20.00 (Sh&H not included)
6.Small Frame of Yang Style Taijiquan (Xiao Jia, with compact stances, sudden changes of speed, fast footwork and hand techniques); (2 discs/1 box), USD13.50 (Sh&H not included)
7.Yang Style Taijiquan Long Fist Boxing (Chang Quan, each part of the routine can be practiced separately on both sides as single drills; each of its movements is composed of four elements: Raising, Supporting, Turning, Closing); (1 disc/1 box), USD9.00 (Sh&H not included)
8.Thirteen General Postures of Yang Style Taijiquan (Shi San Zong Shi, very rare routine based on movements of thirteen animals: lion, snake, magpie, monkey, tiger, crane, bear, toad, dragon, phoenix, chicken, cat, and horse; related to Taoist internal elixir methods, hence it is also known as the Method of Thirteen Elixirs); (1 disc/1 box), USD9.00 (Sh&H not included)
5. Lineage from Yang Chein hou to He Shouyan to Wang Dian Chen
Yang Style Taijiquan, the most popular style of Taijiquan, has developed into many branches of which the one coming from Yang Jianhou is relatively unknown. Yang Jianhou, son of invincible Yang Luchan, did not have many students, and even less became his in-door disciples and received full transmission. This set is probably the first video material ever showing this style as taught by Yang Jianhou to He Shouyan, Yang's disciple, often referred to as "Middle Frame" of Yang Style Taijiquan. Presented by Wang Dianchen from Beijing, who learnt from He Shouyan for over 25 years, this set explains details of both empty hand and weapons routines of Yang Jianhou's system, showing many unknown sets and methods:
1."Traditional Routine of Yang Style Taijiquan in Thirteen Postures as taught by Yang Jianhou" (Yang Jianhou Chuan Yang Shi Taijiquan Chuantong Taolu Shi San Shi, rare traditional routine in 87 movements different - in movements, powers, practice method - from popular Large Frame taught by Yang Chengfu); (3 discs/3 boxes), USD18.00 (Sh&H not included)
2."Thirteen Animals Routine of Yang Style Taijiquan as taught by Yang Jianhou" (Yang Jianhou Chuan Yang Shi Taijiquan Shi San Dan, this traditional routine based on movements of thirteen animals is presented to the public for the first time ever); (1 disc/1 box), USD8.00 (Sh&H not included)
3."Yang Style Taiji Straight Sword in Thirteen Postures as taught by Yang Jianhou" (Yang Jianhou Chuan Yang Shi Taiji Jian Shi San Shi, old straight sword routine in 54 movements); (1 disc/1 box), USD8.00 (Sh&H not included)
4."Yang Style Taiji Spear in Thirteen Postures as taught by Yang Jianhou" (Yang Jianhou Chuan Yang Shi Taiji Qiang Shi San Shi, rare spear routine of Yang Jianhou system); (1 disc/1 box), USD8.00 (Sh&H not included)
6. Lineage or Yang chein hou/Yang shou hao to Wang chonglu to wang Yongquan to Wei Shuren
Explanations of Neigong (Internal Skill) principles - excerpts from the book "The True Teachings of Yang Jianhou's Secret Yang Style Taijiquan" by Wei Shuren. Wei Shuren, Yang Style Taijiquan expert from Beijing, in this book wrote down the teachings that he had received from his teacher, Wang Yongquan, and for the first time revealed many secrets of Yang family martial art. Wang, although formally disciple of Yang Chengfu, learnt the style from his father Wang Chonglu (Yang Jianhou's disciple) as well as Yang Jianhou and Yang Shaohou. In his teaching he stressed the importance of using the Intent (Yi) to guide the movements and considered it a decisive factor to develop Nei Jin - Internal Strenght. This translation contains the detailed description of basic requirements for Yang Style Taijiquan practice with strong emphasis on the use of Intent. It is interesting to see how different they are from what Yang Chengfu taught (and was written down by Chen Weiming); one has an impression that Yang family kept secrets of their style very well, and only thanks to people like Wang Yongquan and Wei Shuren we can have a better look at the deeper aspects of Yang Style Taijiquan that for many decades used to be known to only a very few.
7. Yang chen fu to Xu minshan
By Jiang Jian-ye. Yang short staff.Part 1. He teaches the first 60 of 104 movements in this from created by Xu Minshan, an indoor student of Chengfu., in 1974. It combines the essences of Yang family Tai Chi and characteristics of Yang family staff.
[This message has been edited by mls_72 (edited 07-22-2004).]
[This message has been edited by mls_72 (edited 07-22-2004).]